The Dark Side of the Adult Entertainment Industry with JEANNE ROBERSON

How much do you know about the hidden dangers of the adult entertainment industry? You may think you have an understanding, but today's courageous guest, Jeanne Robertson, is here to pull back the veil. Jeanne was tragically caught in the undertow of grooming and trafficking at the tender age of 17, and she shares her harrowing journey into and out of the industry that promised glamour but delivered addiction and despair.

But there's more than just Jeanne's shocking story. This episode also sheds light on how the industry actively grooms young people, using the internet to expose them to inappropriate content and manipulate them into losing control over their own lives. My own tale will help you understand this from another perspective—how the industry takes advantage of you, leaving you in a state of terror and degradation. This is a conversation for parents, educators, and anyone who cares about the safety of our children.

However, this episode isn't just about exposing the darkness—it's about finding light in the most unexpected places. Through faith and sobriety, Jeanne found her path to redemption, and I found my way through the aftermath of a devastating hurricane. We explore the vital role the church, family, and community can play in protecting our children and discuss how sharing our stories can make a difference. By the end, you'll know how you can be part of the solution and how Christian films offer a wholesome alternative to the harmful content on the internet.


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Chapters

• 0:00 Grooming and Trafficking
• 15:35 Dark Truth of the Stripping Industry
• 28:25 Finding Faith and Redemption
• 36:54 Redemption, Forgiveness, and Making a Difference

Transcript

0:00:00 - Jeanne Roberson
Our children are being groomed as early as four and five years old. I have a situation where a young child, four years old, was in a nursery school and her and several of her little friends went off in a corner on the playground and they were lifting their dresses and showing each other their panties at four years old. Well, the little boy has Superman on his, the little girls have butterflies and rainbows and unicorns, but if their panties didn't have those things, they would have no reason to lift their dress and show each other. 

0:00:36 - Ruth Hovsepian
Hi, I'm Ruth Hovsepian. Welcome to the Out of the Darkness podcast, where we help you navigate life's trials, based on faith and biblical truths. My guest today is Jeanne Roberson, and we are having a conversation that is a difficult one to have and that is about grooming and trafficking. Jeanne has an amazing story that she is sharing with us today, so listen in and find out what is happening in the world today. Welcome to Out of the Darkness, jeanne. I'm so glad to have you here and have a conversation with you about your life experience and where you are today through God's grace. So welcome to Out of the Darkness. 

0:01:24 - Jeanne Roberson
Thank you. Thank you for having me. 

0:01:27 - Ruth Hovsepian
It is my pleasure. So, jeanne, this is a subject that has really come out in the media and on social media, on the news, in the last, I would say, like 10, 15 years, where it really people are hearing about it. It's not something that's new, but it is something that people are hearing more, and that is about trafficking and what that is, and I want to touch about your experience with that and how that affected you as a young teenager. So if you could tell us a little bit about your background and how, at the age of 17, you got into the adult entertainment and how from there, almost unknown to you, I believe you were trafficked into it and continued there for several decades. 

0:02:20 - Jeanne Roberson
Yes, there's different forms of trafficking. I was groomed, which is a little bit different than what a lot of people think of Trafficking. 

They think of kids in cages or kids being used strictly for sex and like sort of imprisoned and someone like, without cracking a whip to make them do what they want them to do. In my case it was a very subtle way of trafficking. It was grooming and I had met an older woman through someone who knew me, while I was pregnant at 16 years old. Well, a month after the baby was born, she introduced me to a woman who convinced me to become an exotic dancer and she, of course, I told her I don't know anything about dancing. I don't you know. Well, I can teach you. And she came to my house and she moved my furniture around to create a large area and she brought costumes beautiful costumes, I mean, something every young girl would dream about wearing and moved my furniture and literally taught me how to dance. She taught me how to use my arms, how to show, all of those kinds of things so that I would be able to know how to do have stage presence and in the clubs, and she would be my agent, taking a large percentage of my pay every night, probably along with owners who were also paying her. So she made her living off of presenting herself as an agent to young girls like myself, who weren't even old enough to drink yet and didn't know anything about that business, promised me that I would make a lot of money, I'd be able to move out of the projects and live comfortably by a house for my son where I can have a yard and just you would be very glamorous. It'll, you know, I'll make. I'm going to make a star out of you, and it was pretty ironic how it all happened. 

So I always thought that this was my own idea. I never in a million years ever guessed that I had actually been trafficked. But trafficked means that someone is being paid and to convince you to do something, and that's you know. You think about a pimp who, you know, gets money for you know a prost for prostituting his girlfriend. But grooming is something that is completely well. Grooming can be part of something like that too, because you might have a guy who is a boyfriend or presenting himself as a boyfriend, and these and usually it is young women who come from dysfunctional homes. They're very young, they're very poor, they're the ones that are easily preyed on. 

0:05:33 - Ruth Hovsepian
And so it's a subtle thing, you know it's, it's not an overt you know like what, what you know, maybe people imagine but it is a very subtle thing feeding you know the needs that you have. You know your, maybe your insecurity, maybe your your don't come from a you know a family situation where you're not loved or there's not enough money, so they, they know how to to reach those, those parts. 

0:06:02 - Jeanne Roberson
They do exactly. 

They look for that type of that's the type of victim that they want. Right, and in my case, I stayed in the business because I can't even begin to tell you how addicting there's so many aspects of the business that become addicting and hard to get away from. And you know, as a young mother, I'm uneducated. I never went to a school prom, I didn't finish high school, I didn't have an education to be able to get a job, a normal job. So everything that I, all the attempts that I made to leave the business and do something different, never lasted. I could never make the kind of money that I made in the club, so the money was an addiction. 

The alcohol was an addiction. By the time I was 23, 24 years old, I was a full blown alcoholic. I mean, I might go one day without a drink, but I'd get over my hangover, go back to work the next night and I'd be drunk again and it was just a vicious cycle of hangovers and getting drunk and I spent years like that until I was 27 when I finally got into AA and I found God again and I started little by little. It took a while. I wasn't ready to give everything up all at once and I continued to make attempts to get out of the business. I worked for the cruise lines. I started, I studied acting, I started doing little things like some television commercials and just some little things. But even that still did not feed what I was getting the attention. It's just something that's so addicting you can't be validated like that anywhere else and that's one of the hooks that keep young girls in that business. 

0:08:02 - Ruth Hovsepian
Let me ask you a question about what you just said there. We know that this feeds what we're looking for, and I know, with my own addiction, that's what it was. It was feeding a need that I had, and yet I was not content with it, I was not happy. It was in that moment that I felt the rush, but after that I felt even more isolated and more alone. How was it for you Was that? Was that a rush that kind of kept going, or was it like a hit, a high, and then you were back down? 

0:08:42 - Jeanne Roberson
That's a great question. Yes, and I have to say, like yourself, it was like a high. 

0:08:48 - Ruth Hovsepian
I mean. 

0:08:49 - Jeanne Roberson
I would be on stage. I have all that attention and power. The power, oh my gosh, I could manipulate these men into giving me money. And wanting to buy me drinks and just constantly feeding my ego with how beautiful you are and what a great body you have. But in reality, when you walk out of that club, you're in the real world again. That's not how people treat you. So there was a very strong um disconnection when I was out of the club compared to when I was in. 

0:09:31 - Ruth Hovsepian
Right and probably even lonelier. Right, because now you've had that feeling of you know, having this power and and having this control, and you walk out and now you're back into reality, where you know you. You can't even talk about that feeling right, because people think you're, you're odd, and I know that's what it was. You know, I joked about certain aspects of my life with friends, but I couldn't really tell them what that feeling was because it was such a An odd feeling. So, yeah, you're, you feel almost lonelier. 

0:10:11 - Jeanne Roberson
Well, what happens when you're in it for a long time, like I was? The girls in the dressing room, the other dancers that you work with, those girls become like your family. They're like your sisters, your friends. You really don't have friends outside of that business, because even even the bouncers and the managers they're. They're going to do everything they can to feed you that attention, also because they want you to stay. 

One of the owners of the club used to come in and he'd come up to the stage and tip me a couple hundred dollar bills at a time. You know, and I mean that was a big deal if the owner came up and tipped you, right, you know, but that's what I mean. It was like they. He was like, you know, like a father. So you have your fathers, the managers, your mothers, you know, and then you have all the girls and we talk about everything our kids, you know customers, our boyfriends. 

And looking back, I can see now that a lot of those girls probably were trafficked by their boyfriends and didn't even realize it. The boyfriends didn't work, but they did Right and in my case that never happened. But I know a lot of the girls who worked in the club with me. They had boyfriends that didn't work. And what happens? 

There is another form of grooming because you have a boyfriend who you know you just don't want to lose, you'll do anything to hang on to that boyfriend because you don't really want to go out with customers, you don't want to go out with a lot of different guys normally. So that boyfriend you're going to do just about anything he wants and a lot of times he may bring another person into the relationship and say oh, you know, this will be fun, just do this. And the other person is paying the boyfriend. So it's really another form of grooming that a lot of young girls don't realize. And now, since I was in the business, it has changed a lot. Right, there's a lot of wounds that they've added there's. It's nothing like what it was when I was in it, but I did get married. I had children, but I stayed in it long enough to watch it change. It went from what I did was being a feature attraction and having maybe three girls at a time to they added polls. 

They added, I used to get paid for working and the agent would get a percentage. Now they started making the dancers pay the club and they would tip out the bouncers. They'd have to tip out the parking attendant. So the girls today in that business don't realize how used they actually are. And the other thing is they don't realize that this is their body and it's their integrity. And to try to come out right, I'm sorry. 

0:13:07 - Ruth Hovsepian
It's finding self worth, finding out that you are worthy for so much more. But that only comes with, you know, finding God and finding the Lord and understanding your self worth. So how did you, at what was at the age of 27, 28, decide to go to AA? What was that push? What was that pivotal moment? 

0:13:34 - Jeanne Roberson
It was a combination of things I had just come back from working on the cruise lines and my alcoholism was at a peak and which, which is what happens, it's a progressive disease. 

It doesn't get better, it gets worse the older you get and the longer you drink. And I had gotten a DUI and I knew the club owner came and got me. I was arrested and they brought me to spend the night in jail. And it was very, in a very ugly scene, ruth, very, very ugly. And the guilt I had, the shame I had. I didn't want to live. I laid on my couch for three days barely eating anything. I think I would get up to go to the bathroom channel surfing and I happened to, you know, come across some Christian channels and in the meantime I had a friend who kept calling me. She had just been sober a year and she, she would not stop calling me. Why didn't take the phone off the hook? I don't know, that was a God thing. 

0:14:47 - Ruth Hovsepian
Yeah. 

0:14:48 - Jeanne Roberson
But she convinced me to make the phone call to alcoholics and ominous, and two women showed up at my door. They brought me to my first meeting and that's how it began for me. And as a child I had accepted Christ at the age of 11. I had gone to church for a brief time and I accepted Christ, and I believe that all those years that I had stayed in the business, that grace was over me. I did a lot of things that I did when I was drunk I should not be here to even talk about, and so when I got sober I continued to dance. Afterwards there was no way that I wanted to leave that business after all those years and not have anything to show for it, and I felt that if I could work sober, I could save some money, buy a house. And I did all those things. And I got married my husband after I had the baby. My husband wanted me to go back to work and it just happened that the club wanted me back as a dance instructor. They wanted me to teach the new girls how to dress, how to act, how to wear their clothes so that they looked glamorous and classy, and so it was kind of like they recycled their dancers to either be a waitress, a cocktail waitress or a shot girl, or, in my case, they wanted me to teach and I did it for a little while. And then my husband and I separated and I couldn't afford to be on my own financially. Again, I still was uneducated, I didn't have any degree in anything. So I went back to dancing, but I went out of state from where I lived. I didn't want anybody to know this time what I was doing, and I worked in a gentleman's club in Connecticut for a while. 

My husband and I had gone back together. After the brief separation, we had gone back together and he wanted me to continue to dance. But I had had some experiences with some serious darkness. By that point, god was beginning to show me what that world was really about, and I had one experience that was a year before my first anniversary where I was on stage and I was center stage and there weren't a lot of men sitting around the stage. There were a few, but as I was dancing, getting closer to the rim to start collecting tips, I felt a cold wind blow past me and as I got closer to pick up tips, all of a sudden I became filled with terror. These men's faces were expressionless. They looked dead. I cannot explain it any other way, except they looked dead. Their eyes, there was something about their eyes. It just there were no smiles there was. It scared me so bad I left the stage. I went into the dressing room. I curled up in a chair and I couldn't speak and of course the stage is empty. Management, the music is playing, management comes in and they're you know, dominique, dominique, what's wrong? And I couldn't speak. So they rushed me to the hospital and they diagnosed me at the hospital with having had a psychotic event. But I know that it was not a psychotic event. 

I believe with all my heart that God allowed me to see the souls of those men and I have to bring something out. That's really important that you know. If there's ever a dancer any dancer that's watching this interview, you know, later on in my life there were some things I thought about that I had never considered when I was in that business. Where do those men go after they leave there? They go home and rape a daughter. Do they go home and pick up one of those children that they don't see? Was I part of that and not even realized it. It was like God allowed me to see all the aspects of that business, the men, how dark their souls were me and what they did afterwards. You know young women in this business today. I didn't realize it and I'm sure they don't realize it either, but they're the center core of trafficking, because you take, our children are being groomed as early as four and five years old. 

I have a situation where a young child, four years old, was in a nursery school and her and several of her little friends went off in a corner on the playground and they were lifting their dresses and showing each other their panties at four years old. Well, the little boy has Superman on his, the little girls have butterflies and rainbows and unicorns. But if their panties didn't have those things, they would have no reason to lift their dress and show each other. And I know that this sounds kind of like oh well, they're just kids. But that's the problem. That's why we have to wake up there. It's not that they're just kids. They're being groomed already to say look, and it's OK, because they're just showing a picture. They're not really showing their panties. That's how subtle it is. And we go from that to these days. Eight, nine, 10 years old these kids are. 

They have phones. They're exposed by accident. They can run across a porn site just simply by Googling the wrong thing. It can be a letter, it can be the beginning of a word, and the automation in the technology is going to bring up a porn site and for the first time they're going to see. I have a friend who wrote a book on that. Her son actually became addicted to porn and had someone threaten him that he would tell his parents and if he didn't pay him money. So of course he had to tell his parents. But then you have the teenage years also. Now you have these young women that think they can make money online and showing pictures. How harmless is that? I'm making money, I'm in my room, no one's touching me, but that's their integrity, that's their self-worth. That's never going to go away once it's on the internet. It is there forever. 

0:21:23 - Ruth Hovsepian
And then you have to. It doesn't give them any. It's so strange how they feel that they are gaining independence and they're becoming so powerful in their own way. But the problem is that it's so the opposite of what they believe in, because they are losing control of their lives. And you put something out there, as you said, it never disappears, never disappears. And how do you go and explain that one day, if you change your life, to your spouse, your children, that's a difficult thing to overcome. It's just you want to shake these young girls and these young boys into sense. You want to shake it, shake them up and say look at what you're doing, look at the devastation you're causing to yourself. 

And I remember too, I had something very similar as you did on that day on the dance floor. In my case it was I had come home and after a night of, as I put it, like debauchery, of drinking and whatever else that was happening. And I remember, in my room, in the dark, suddenly feeling the presence of many people. And because I had been drinking, it was a mixed up sense, because at home was I still in that hotel, where was I? And I didn't. But then very suddenly, as you did. Isn't that strange that coldness, that sensation of that evil, the presence of Satan. 

Yes, evil, yes, and that's what I encountered that one night and that was sort of my tipping point. Obviously it wasn't overnight thing because we were addicts to that lifestyle, but it was a tipping point for me because I felt it, I saw the evil and I, too started to think about. Isn't it interesting, right in retrospect, that I too started to think about these men that I had been having sex with? Where were they going afterwards? Were they going to their wives? Were they going to their families? Who were they, and what change was I putting into that family because of my own weird desires? And yeah, I really want people to understand it's not a glamorous life, it's a solid created by the trafficker. 

0:24:25 - Jeanne Roberson
I had a young girl that I was speaking to one time and they were in the back of my car. They were extras, going to be extras on a movie I was filming and I was bringing them to set with me and I asked them what do you want to be when you grow up? And one of them said and mind you, these are 14-year-old girls, I want to be a stripper. I almost hit the brakes and pulled the car over right there. I'm like why do you want to be a stripper? Whoa, too much money they made. She had no idea about my history, but by the time I got those two girls out of the car and it was a very slow ride to set richtig, kelli. But by the time they got out of the car that was the last thing they ever wanted to do and you know it was just. 

But God is so good that he has us chosen. We are chosen. He is going to surround us and he's going to allow us to see. Once our heart is open, god knows who he can reach and who he can use, and he can use anybody, as long as their heart is open and they have faith. I repented. I had so much guilt when I realized what I was doing. I'm grateful that God showed me you know but that stripping industry. 

because as soon as those kids are old enough now they've looked at all these pictures of nude women on the internet they want to go see a real girl and now that's where the real addiction comes in. 

And why is trafficking such a demand sexually for these kids? I mean, I think the stripping industry is actually the core of that, because not everybody can afford to feed money to those girls on stage, not everybody can afford what it costs to go get a room in the club with one of those girls, so they're left with a desire and a lust that they need to fulfill. And I mean, we have so many children missing in this country and we have no idea where they are. 

0:26:29 - Ruth Hovsepian
Yeah, it's such a dark world. You know that people need to be aware of how their children can be groomed potentially right, yes, if the parents are not aware of it. Jeannie, let's skip ahead a little bit and talk about, you know, when you found, when you got back and you started your journey with the Lord again, what were some of the changes and what is it that you're doing now as a new person Because that's how I like to refer to myself as well I'm a new person. 

0:27:05 - Jeanne Roberson
Right, you are a new person once you turn your life over to the Lord. You know, for me, gradually I began praying and I began I didn't go to church so much, it was mostly praying. And I stayed connected with AA. I went to a lot of meetings and they talk a lot about God and I just started developing my relationship with God. Like I said, I continued to pray, went to meetings and then I had two women that had entered my life and they were twins and I always say I was so far gone. I think God felt I needed a tag team so he gave me twins because these two women, they really had a lot to do with my growth spiritually. 

They convinced me to start reading the Bible, which I never read the Bible before and I prayed for in my prayers. I started praying for wisdom and understanding because I really loved reading the Bible. The stories in the Bible are fascinating. I mean, there's just about everything in there you can imagine that you would find in regular fiction. And so the Bible. 

Going to church I consider myself to be, you know. I love Jesus, I believe in Jesus, and it doesn't matter what church I go to, as long as it's a church that practices love for Christ and believes in Christ. So I was going to Catholic church with them, but I was raised a Baptist and I started going to Mass every single day and I came to love it because I could just feel the presence of God when I was in church. I could so feel the presence of God, and so that had a lot to do with it too. And I started seeing things. I started recognizing coincidences, things that were happening in my life that just didn't make sense, that they could be anything but God. And to give you an example of that, my home had been destroyed in a hurricane and there were only two things I found in the rubble, and one of those things was my AA medallion, so of all. And at that point I say you know, that was where I think I really turned my life over to God. I mean, I was standing in the middle of this rubble looking at all the shattered pieces of my life, everything around me, and I had been sober for quite some time, I had quit dancing, then I had left my husband and I had quit dancing for two. I think I'd been out of the business for two years and then to have lost everything like that. But I'm so glad God did. He allowed that. And I remember thinking to myself so, god, you know, what are you trying to say to me here? Did you, you know you allowed this in my life? Or is this Satan? Did you allow Satan to do this? Because maybe Satan thought that if he could strip me of everything, that I would have no choice but to go back to dancing again, and God knew that I wouldn't. So he allowed it and in the process of it I lost my desire for all material things and what I really gained out of that was faith in God and trust. I began to trust him in everything in my life. I actually got to a point where I said I'm not going to worry about this because God's got a plan. He has showed me all throughout my life that he had a plan for me. 

And where I'm at today, well, I stayed in that business until I was 38 years old and then I left my husband, we divorced and I quit and then the hurricane happened and once it did, that's it. I became a Red Cross volunteer. I just started using my life to help other people and that's where I found my joy in life. And then, through writing and going to a lot of conferences, I ended up meeting a producer who is with JC Films and he brought me into my first film, which I did with Casting Stones JC Films, casting Stones and it's a story about abortion and from there I did All In, which is a wonderful story, because it's about an alcoholic, a young guy, who, him and his girlfriend, go out and they get into a car accident. 

No, him and his sister go out and they get into a car accident and she gets killed. And the AA medallion I just want to share this. This is how good God is. The AA medallion that I found in the rubble of that hurricane actually is used in this movie because there's a scene where they have to pass the sponsor has to pass the AA medallion for the first anniversary to this young man, and they didn't have a medallion and I offered mine, so that same medallion that was found in the rubble of that hurricane and at the movie premiere this past weekend it was the woman who was my sponsor son that escorted me. 

0:32:30 - Ruth Hovsepian
God is good, isn't he? And when we are faithful to him and you know the opportunities that he gives us to to share our story. Right, and that that is a difficult one. Right, because I know I bore a lot of shame and Satan wants to keep us down with that shame. But I've come to understand, even with some negative feedback about me sharing about my experiences. I don't know about you, but I've had some negative feedback from Christians saying, oh, you don't need to to share the details. You can just say you had a dark past, you weren't a believer. But I truly believe that you, someone like you, someone like me, sharing about our past it's not for you know thrills and kicks and you know to be, to be popular or whatever. That's not my intent whatsoever. 

0:33:33 - Jeanne Roberson
You can't reach another person, ruth if you don't share the details. People, people that have been through the things that we've been through, they aren't going to open up. You can't really help someone who has not been through what, who, if they don't want to talk to someone that doesn't know what they're about? And that's why God chooses us. In a sense, god chooses us because there has to be somebody and we say, gee, why did you let this happen to me? 

You know, but when you see, kind of like my medallion. I didn't know what was happening in the rubble, but then when it was used in the movie, and there I was with my sponsor son, who's a grown man with his own family, you know, taking me to this premiere where that medallion representing my sobriety is past, that's kind of like looking at the whole picture and you know I mean I come look. I have another story. Just recently I met a girl who had to come to my house for something involving a medical issue with my, my father-in-law. And this girl and I got to talking will come to find out. She has just recently stopped dancing, so I knew again, it's not a mistake her and I ended up spending an hour and a half on my patio, you know talking about, you know the life in there and other girls that maybe I can reach through my book, through my movies, through, you know, just having a cup of coffee with them, because it's very difficult to reach these girls. 

But again you have to have the experience, because nobody else will understand them. 

0:35:20 - Ruth Hovsepian
I think God can take the you know, the dirty, the shameful, and turn it into something beautiful to help someone else. That's how I've seen it. You know, I'm not proud of my past. I'm not proud of what I've been through or what I've done. By no means I wish you know I. Recently, I was praying and this thought came into my mind I wish I could stand in front of these men and their families and and ask for forgiveness. And I know it's not possible, it's I don't know who they are, where they're from, right. But it was just a desire. And and I said, lord, please, give me the peace, because I need that peace, right, because that's the guilt, right, the shame of it. And I said, lord, please, I'm, you know, like, what do I do, you know? And I don't have the solution to it yet, I just know that I've been forgiven. 

0:36:25 - Jeanne Roberson
I'm not ashamed, yeah, and I'm not ashamed of my past? 

0:36:29 - Ruth Hovsepian
I just I think I would love to have closed that. But how do you do that? Right, it's like you dancing in the club. How do you? How? 

0:36:39 - Jeanne Roberson
do you ask? I have closed it For me. I've closed it and I have such peace and I'm very open about with anybody what I did. I never know who needs to hear my story, but my closure came with. I know God's forgiven me. 

0:36:56 - Ruth Hovsepian
Right 100%. 

0:36:58 - Jeanne Roberson
God has forgiven me. So you know those men that are in there to stand before them and ask for forgiveness. They're still in there, probably, and a lot of them are probably still doing what they do, and they could care less about that, Right? But we know that we've been forgiven and we have, we're redeemed from what we did. 

So that's where our peace comes from is knowing that God's redeemed us. That's a past life and we're only using it right now. Absolutely there's no glory in anything that I did. You know, and I can say I was a superstar dancer, but that was only because it brought me to the level that I was at to be able to bring me to who I am today Exactly 100%. 

0:37:41 - Ruth Hovsepian
You wouldn't do who I? 

0:37:42 - Jeanne Roberson
am today, if God didn't, you know, put that in my life and at the time, not understanding, but I see it in you, know it today. 

0:37:51 - Ruth Hovsepian
Yeah, and I agree with you. You know it's what we're doing with our lives today. You know, and you know how am I using my past to glorify God today by sharing my testimony, by telling about you know the story, my story of redemption and forgiveness, and showing other people that there is hope, there is joy. 

0:38:17 - Jeanne Roberson
Right, yes 100%. 

I cleaned houses, I did landscaping. I was so determined that Satan was not going to win. I went ahead and open my own business, and I didn't have a lot of money. I had a lot of faith, though, and I trusted that God was going to bring the people to me so that I could make a living and need it. You know and I mean I mean so many doors have opened, and, honestly, ruth, I'm not a movie star. I haven't. I'm not rich, but as long as I have a room for my head and food in my mouth and transportation, my needs are being met, and these are needs. 

We do not have to have all the perks and whistles. You know God will take care of our needs. We do not need all that extra stuff. 

0:39:10 - Ruth Hovsepian
Amen to that, I think, for me. 

0:39:12 - Jeanne Roberson
I have more peace not having it, and a lot of the things that I do in Christian films is volunteer. I don't get paid for a lot of the things that I do in Christian films but it's okay because I'm serving God through those films. Right now, those Christian films are so on the rise. We need new content, we need options. You know our kids are seeing things that you know they shouldn't be seeing and in the movie, making in Christian films is getting better and better, and I mean more. Even more Hollywood actors are beginning to jump on board the bandwagon because they're disgusted with what television and movies are now. 

The Sound of Freedom that movie I don't know how many of your viewers have seen it, but I had the opportunity to view that at a convention I was at before it came out and, and you know, they were really trying to fund that movie. Well, that movie in theaters has paid for itself 10 times over again. Yeah, it was something like $1 billion, $4 million, something for $1 billion, $400 million something dollars that it's made so far as of last week when I last checked. That's amazing and that's that's a family film. Every, every young girl and every mother, every Sunday school teachers, you know, need to see that movie. 

I tell my daughters, when you park your car, don't park next to a van that has doors on the side. You know, be careful what you're wearing, because you are presenting a statement when people see you, you know, and we think it's cool to wear the shorts with our cheeks hanging out. I thought it was too when I was young. You know I'm experiencing my body and you know I'm getting attention. You know as a young girl. But what we don't realize as young girls is that we're attracting that negative. You know we're attracting those negative men to our, to ourselves. 

0:41:29 - Ruth Hovsepian
As followers of Christ. We need to present ourselves in that manner, that we are followers of Christ, and that doesn't mean being frumpy or, you know, looking shleppy. It just means presenting yourself as a follower of Christ. 

0:41:46 - Jeanne Roberson
You know and To the young girls that are not necessarily following Christ. You know, like you say, you know, how do moms? What do they say to their daughters? Yes, don't go on those sites. Help them to understand. And if you are in a church, these are topics that churches haven't wanted to talk about. 

0:42:03 - Ruth Hovsepian
Oh, jeannie, that is one of my passions right there, you know is reaching out to the young people because you know, as parents, I don't. Parents need to step out from the backseat. You know they've taken the backseat to their child's life. You know parents have to be front and center. Parents have to give children boundaries. Forget what all this new age stuff about letting children make. No, children don't know how to make decisions. That's why we're there. Give children boundaries, allow them to understand what is right and wrong, because by the time they're 13 or 14, they've been already started. You know that molding is yeah Well yeah, seven years old. 

0:42:51 - Jeanne Roberson
I watched an interview with Leanne Mancini last night and she was talking about a book that's recently been written, and in this interview what she was saying is that the first seven years of a child's life, their values are instilled. That's all Satan needs is seven years with a child. And we've already lost them. 

0:43:11 - Ruth Hovsepian
Yeah, parents have to take us. You know, parents need to take control of their children's lives. 

And grandparents and grandparents and aunts and uncles. The church, there's the community, the village has to step up for these young people because we need to protect them from what Satan is doing out there. Well, Jeanette, yeah, this is a subject that is can get hot and heavy and there's so much to talk about, and I hope that you can come back and you know, sort of maybe touch on this area of it of how parents can protect, you know, protect their children, but tell us how people can connect with you and, if they can, to support the ministry that you are doing. 

0:44:00 - Jeanne Roberson
Yes, if anybody would like to connect with me, they can reach me through my email, which is inspiring souls one, and that's souls S O U L S one, at gmailcom. And as far as helping out with, you know, christian funds, I mean funds to help make Christian movies. This is huge and you know we have places that I'm gonna give to you at the end of the show. 

Yeah, that you will be able to give to your viewers. Where you can actually donate, make donations. It costs a lot of money to make these faith based films and if we're gonna make a difference, we need the help, because we don't have the kind of funds out that Hollywood has. A lot of these films right now are low budget and we need donations, we need funding, and the more funding that we can get, the better quality these movies can be, the more people's lives we can touch, and that's what we're trying to do, ruth. So you know we really appreciate anything we can get and I will make sure that you have that information and I appreciate any emails that is sent. 

0:45:08 - Ruth Hovsepian
Thank you, jeannie, thank you for sharing with us today and being so open and vulnerable, and all of the information to connect with you, to connect with Jeannie and to be able to contribute, if that is what you are led to do will be in the show notes. So take a look at it and the information will be there. Jeannie, thank you, it's been a blessing. 

0:45:31 - Jeanne Roberson
Thank you for having me and I look forward to coming back again. 

0:45:39 - Ruth Hovsepian
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